are with us in spirit if not in direct alliance. I don't care if it's ten seconds, ten minutes or an hour. That is cover something up, replace it with something dramatic to help my case.Bug said Linda wasn't involved in any trouble prior to being at Spahn, yet he forgets she did admit to dealing drugs. But no I am do not reject HS out of hand. Murder Cases of the Twentieth Century - Biographies and Bibliographies of 280 Convicted or Accused Killers, discrepancies between evidence and narrative, discrepancies between physical evidence and testimony, Manson Exposed A Reporter's 50 Year Journey into Madness and Murder, Manson Speaks: Inside the Mind of a Madman, MANSON The Live and Times of Charles Manson, movie review. Or for that matter, totally good.quoting Bugliosi is sort of like quoting one of us. The people I have met who support Charlie cant stand her. It was the general consensus at the end of '69/start of '70 that the prosecution had a very weak case. lol your insight is interesting reading.. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. linda kasabian daughter tanya INTRO OFFER!!! Not only that, they all happened to be dramatic and under the surfaces lurks alternative and more reasonable possibilities.For example: Bugliosi had a problem. There were bits that really made her look cheap, like when it was brought out that Joe Sage helped her out with money and Gary Fleischman's name because he wanted her to be his doxy..and she obliged ! It is usually something unrelated to what they are being asked like Krenwinkels Sharon wasnt supposed to be there comment I read about somewhere. Linda purposely brought Sadie and Clem to the wrong door, and the mission was aborted. The perfect storm of just the wrong type of personalities- mixed in with just the wrong type of older influence who made their dark desires ok to live out. He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. Today Mrs. Kasabian was granted a two-week delay before entering a plea in the Tate murder case to enable her attorney to study the grand jury transcript. The involvement of Susan and Gypsy in the Shorty affair has come to light too. In a sense, Helter Skelter and Susan Atkins developed as parallel lines during the investigation. Over time, she has been depicted by numerous actresses in different movies. The problem of course is that Bugliosi does not want that answer. No counselor, I think that's a stretch but Manson certainly heard what they were saying while in prison and heard them and knew what they were seeking. You say Linda had some things going for her but her Mum recognizes that she was deficient in Linda's life, paying more attention to her siblings and not really being there for Linda at that critical point when someone who is in that vital crux between adolescence and young adulthood really needs a listening, tolerant but firm and experienced, caring and guiding hand; her stepfather, as many have found with theirs, doesn't appear to have played a valuable part in her life; she saw her actual Dad twice in 15 years. ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Yeah, all true. Her Other Children Bob Kasabian That is o.k. This marriage too did not prove to be stable and Linda Kasabian returned to stay with her mother in New Hampshire. Only the main core of 20 to 30 stayed consistently. DEBUNKING THE BUNK PART 1: A Look at Joel Rostau, Thoughts on the LaBiancas and the motive on August 10th, Benedict Canyon Acoustics and Bugliosi's Timeline, The Law: Conspiracy to Commit Murder, Felony Murder and One for the Colonel. I'm not even convinced 100% she was ever standing on that sidewalk nor am I convinced she wasn't inside the house (yes, I see the inconsistency). Secondlyhow did the jury know she was different? Atkins herself made that point in "The Myth" Furthermore, Charlie was never charged with attempted murder for any of the other incidents on LaBianca night. His case went like this:"Charles Manson sent out from the fires of hell at Spahn Ranch three heartless, bloodthirsty robots and--unfortunately for him--one human being, the hippie girl Linda Kasabian." Prosecution ? Sympathy is something that just doesn't make sense to me. Bugliosi did say that he had planned to question Susan later so who knows, it may have come up. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. How would she have heard anything Linda said, especially when you take into account that Linda's statement was issued to Susan ?Secondly, how would Pat know how much of a willing participant Linda was ? Nothing new. Stuff that made her look like everything from a slag to a thief to a patient suffering from some form of mental illness to an unfit Mum to a junkie stealing from her Dad. Her father, Rosaire, was a construction worker and the family faced financial difficulties. In March of 1968, Linda and Bob had their first child, Tanya. MM, Should I assume you don't believe Manson is innocent of any crime and are arguing motive and reasons testimony is weak, etc, a lot of which I probably agree with? I've never thought of it like that. var part1 = "gw"; Member of the Manson Family (born 1949) Add links. I get why people get pissy over Deb Tate and Bugs. Grim, I have to disagree with you a bit. She, like all of us, was/is a flawed person but not totally on the dark side. Later, Robert Kasabian contacted Linda and invited her to meet him in Los Angeles. That is just an elementary interpretation that most will have.But now, nearly fifty years later, allot of folk want to cut the girls a bit of slack - primarily because they all seem(ed) to have repented and become what most would call "nice people".But you don't find many, if any, willing to cut the two Charles any slack. But Bugliosi's write up of it makes it sound like a sensational groundbreaking moment that was obvious to all.I was made to live in Nigeria at the age of 14 without being informed {I was on holiday}. Now DailyMail.com can exclusively disclose that Linda Kasabian, 68, is living in a modest apartment complex in Tacoma, Washington, not far from the home of her daughter Quanu, 45. It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.Q. It is an interesting piece especially given the Odyssey piece. AND were there NOT enough "pigs" in Chatsworth ? You are certainly entitled to that because we can't read her mind. Q (by Bugliosi). Not because I'm being argumentative {after all, I am the current holder of the Consensusinidem award of the most pedantic know it all on the TLB blogs } but because I'm curious.Her background should have had a greater impact Well, during the 11 days she was grilled by the defence, we learn a lot of stuff about Linda Kasabian. She was the key witness in District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi's prosecution of Manson and his followers for the Tate-LaBianca murders. Clear and simple, murder. If Fleischmann actually did come up with that plan to knock Atkins out of the last seat in the life boat it was brilliant. And if robbery or burglary had been the motive, there wouldn't have been any need to print the words in the victims' blood at the scene of both residences. Low level of intelligence: Thinking a heavily funded (by much richer and evil "white men" than Trump) warmongering globalist who overthrows other country with aggressive "intervention" while hiding behind noble motives is a leftist savior. Strike 1! Her parents separated while she was still young with Rosaire remarrying and moving to Miami, Florida. But I rereading my post above I do feel regret. Its Ok to see things differently Grim.You make alot of eloquent points bud. Farflung saidI'm kinda thinkn' there were plenty of precursors, gleefully ignored, or dismissedI think you're right. You believe she was largely an accurate witness. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. 3. She married, divorced, remarried, and gave birth to a daughter in 1968. I still see no proof that any of the actual killers had any other reason- outside of runmor and innuendo.But thy have all said H/S was the driving force behind what they were trying to accomplish. If it comes out that a witness has two convictions, one for bestiality involving a local horse and the other for sexually abusing one of their siblings, the other side will lean hard on that. The only possible explanation, is that on that particular day she forgot it back on the ranch and only brought her library card.Give the absolutely weak explanation for her being involved by the prosecutor. Manson Blog Reveals Bobby Beausoleil's "Art" Focuses on Child Domestic Discipline! And there are times her testimony 'just don't make no sense'.A large part of this never saw the light of day because as Mr. Hendrickson noted there was no $$$$. Early Life. Even with all the people that eventually formed part of the huge patchwork needed to make Manson's role make sense, without an Atkins, a Van Houten, a Krenwinkel, a Watson or a Kasabian, the case was so limp and that's why people would say to the prosecution things like "shame you had to be landed with such a bummer !". The parts I found 'dramatic' would probably pass many people by. I am not heartless. The stuff written at Waverley gave the prosecution case legs, backbone and a gravitas it might not otherwise have had.Another interesting point: Kasabian never said the motive was Helter SkelterAlso important and true. She got lucky Atkins folded, leaving her the only game in town and she skated. Manson Mythos saidWhen one looks at this case, it's almost miraculous that Vincent Bugliosi had a scenario that answered so many important questions and that the answers all seemed to help his case greatlyIs that not what one might expect when, from a number of disparate sources, details and events match up and dovetail ? The big question: How do WE know she wouldn't kill? The same night, Manson instructed Linda Kasabian to take part in killing of actor Saladin Nader herself. Maybe some of you can pound beers everyday and do your bowls and never have a bad thought. And it is almost impossible - hell, it is impossible - to cut the guy who proclaimed himself the Devil before butchering nine people any slack. The Brits threw him out because he was accused of rape. ?Most definitely.Both were at different stages and had come through different experiences.However.there were also some similarities. Some folk are just simply born under a bad sign, cursed with to much anger, desperation and bad judgement in their DNA. Oh and I don't think the events are clear long before Jay Sebring is shot. There are definitely aspects of her being that stink worse than any shit a doctor or vet could extract from a creature of any description. Linda Kasabian Who Is She: Kasabian was the Family member who eventually turned on the Family. Catch 22s abound.If Linda did in fact have a valid driver's license there is no reason why it would be rejected when she went to see Bobby Beausoleil. But in saying that, he'd never wanted Susan in the first place {"we don't give that gal anything !"}. Parent.2. There have also been a number of stories of the appalling way some care workers have treated the residents so this has also unfairly soured their general image in the minds of many. The Vietnam WAR and those that "served" and those that didn't is NOW becoming a subject of contention. Pictured: Kasabian running errands on Tuesday View gallery The. I'm not sure how the neglect of Ruth's teen years inures her from criticism but not Linda. :). But this has always been subject to alteration, progression, sideways steps, change, being unwise, you know, life. Blacks and whites died in roughly the same proportion as percentages in the general population. He even admitted in his book that it was he and he alone that surmised it. SorryDo no such thing ! That's where I've found some of the trial and grand jury testimonies and police and lawyer interviews and magazine articles from 1969/70 invaluable.Remember, she too was indicted following the Grand Jury Which Bugliosi didn't jump for joy about. !we don't need her kids,either! [Off course he goes adding a third objection. It was at this point of time that she got associated with the Manson family and became a part of their horrific crimes. I would say roughly around midnight. Eventually, Linda moved to Boston where she married a man named Robert Kasabian. The more I've listened to people that were around and active in that period, the more I've watched and read, the more I can see that there was a wind blowing that caught many in it's slipstream and so many young people with similar upbringings had similar feelings and ended up in many different directions, some exciting and 'positive,' some not.Even some men that fought in Vietnam committed atrocities that they would never have perpetrated elsewhere or in any other situation; neither were there any clues in their upbringings as to some of these things happening. Memory is sometimes very specific and other times more general and at other times, not at all. These savage murders were not committed to effectuate a robbery. It was through Melton that Linda first met Manson family member Catherine Share (Gypsy). And she said, "It's too late." So shove it up your ass. Low self esteem because she was overweight or other childhood issues? The charges against her were dropped when she agreed to attend a drug counselling session. That's what I mean by not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That was about all we had" speaks volumes, not to mention his thought at the end of '69 that Manson could well be acquitted and his feeling that it could turn out to be better for Linda to be tried & acquitted than testify against the Family.there are occasions too numerous to count in the Tate-LaBianca trial where he 'leads' his key witness to the answer he wantsTrue, but it's an answer that he wants already knowing that answer. Manson Mythos saidThe recent revelation of the close proximity of the apartment where Saladin Nader allegedly lived and the HQ of the Straight Satans is something that cannot be dismissed as pure CoincidenceOf course it can !In a city where different Family members had various dealings, if some of those places were near each other, what is unusual about that ? There is no online registration for the intro class Terms of usage & Conditions Why?In the grand scheme of things, with all that was going on, perhaps for those few seconds or minutes none of them envisaged Sharon attempting to escape as she was roped up. She eventually turned herself in and agreed to become the lead witness for the prosecution in exchange for her own immunity. ?This is a girl who started breaking laws at a very young age. Atkins remembers seeing Pat struggle with Abigail but can't recall the exact sequence of things where she was concerned or how she ended up crawling on the lawn as they were about to leave. AND Paul Watkins, who KNEW Charlie INTIMATELY said: "The Black Muslims will prevail in the final Black and White battle. Anything she says next is what I mean by 'unreliable'. I would have likely done the exact same thing. Bill Kurtis can make it sound like the best name ever. Do you hate everyone who was of draft age during the Vietnam era. Both have different conclusions.I don't know what you get from that but I know what I get from that. It has positive aspects but often, is anything but.Linda is one person people on both sides can agree was no good personally.I wouldn't say that about anybody. If one of the ones that you obviously wanted {the "reasonable" ones} had been accepted as the one, exactly the same thing could be said.How perfect did the stars align for the prosecutor that there was one angel among the groupAt this point, I always like to say that being an angel is not a guaranteed beautiful thing.Satan's an angel !The big question: How do WE know she wouldn't kill? When this second marriage hit the rocks, Linda. We all know that the Saint is a good guy. That, of course, rather obviously is directed at Charles Manson. During his closing argument he actually tells the jury; "now, I am not saying, ladies and gentlemen, that Linda Kasabian deserves any medal, any award from the Kiwanis Club or anything like that; all I am saying is that there is a distinct possibility that she saved the life of a human being on the night of the LaBianca murders, and this act by Linda in deliberately knocking on the wrong door shows, along with all the other evidence in this case about her, that although she is not an angel~and we have never said she was; and she would be the first one to admit that she is not an angelYes, he distinguishes her essential character from those that killed, but he does the same thing with TJ, Paul Watkins and Brooks Poston.He also did point out about Sadie that he felt sorry for her and that he felt she had more remorse than the others. The good guys are the victims, the bad guys are the killers. It's not like he was shooting in the dark. document.write(part3 + ''); Her testimony was considered to be the most dramatic segment of the very long trial, and it received an unprecedented amount of news media coverage. Or even implicate him.Based upon what ex-members recently revealed about the Hinman murder and DeCarlo, the maker who interviewed these people believes that DeCarlo should and hopefully WILL be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. linda kasabian daughter tanya 3- Classes pack for $45 linda kasabian daughter tanya for new clients only. Now, when you say the middle of the night do you mean 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning or do you mean midnight? I find some of the holes {depending on what one may see as a hole} lead to interesting places but still nowhere that dents her essential picture of what happened.Or for purposes of this blog do they show an alternative narrative to what is the official narrativeIn terms of why they were put away, I've yet to be convinced that the alternatives proposed have been what actually took place. I think if it has any legs it makes it worse if they were stalking the house- can you say 'premeditation' or 'conspiracy'. You said Krenwinkle said it. Those people would have gone unpunished, and were very capable of murdering again, especially Watsonwhich as far as I can see was a good thing. She swore before a Grand Jury, that under the direction of Charlie Manson, she stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death and had participated in the murder of music teacher Gary Hinman.During her grand jury testimony, Atkins testified that there was no limit to what . Then I put it together with Irving Kanarek bringing June Emmers down to testify as to what a liar Linda was and some of the other things the defence exposed about her and despite Robert's point about the guy that spent 30 years inside because his lawyer never had his gun checked to see whether the bullets matched, I find it extremely difficult to believe that she was going to lie about the licence, especially as it was so easy to check on it and it would have severely dented her credibility. Perhaps soemthing more general. Did Bugliosi actually use any scenario that did not come from someone else ? Another interesting point: Kasabian never said the motive was Helter Skelter. Sorry. When Larry King asked her if at any point she asked Manson why are we doing this and why are these people being killed, she was at a total loss for words until Bugliosi spoke up and answered for her. Which scares people in a society where every wants to blame a white man for personal or political gain. lol- it gets easier he had to teach me too :), St Circumstance saidBugs was never going to use Linda if Susan hadn't flipped on her decision to cooperateWell, he had no use for Linda as long as there was Susan. She clearly loved her children and tried to be a good mother. ]THE COURT: Overruled. He wasn't even charged with shooting Lotsapoppa, but we all know it happened..The question: what if she was ASKED?She wasn't asked, she was told. I think there is a tendency to look at Kasabian's involvement through the lens provided by what we know (or believe or have been told to believe ) from where we sit today. Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do??? look at there high school pics- they had the same kid of background as me lol. Did she play well with others?That job as an aide at a nursing home sounds so kind and sweet. However, she purposely knocked on the wrong door due to which the mission was aborted. Over here in Englang, 'moving the goal posts' can mean altering the rules/argument as and when one feels like it. var part1 = "deb"; I think if you agree with me that her story is not accurate your answer to this question will reveal the real Kasabian. Of course he knew from the start the jury would question this. She appears to have had no or little choice. But none of us can say what Tex's life might have been if he had stayed in Texas instead of going out to trippin Cal and soaked his brain in bella donna. It doesn't really matter. The question: what if she was ASKED? I think goofy's comments about 'being at war' and 'casualties of war' are interesting. ?It is very possible and probable that there was other reasons for those crimes and those two houses. The family often had financial difficulties because of her father's low income. But1. When he sends Gypsy & Squeaky to Leslie, even though she's implicated him in the murders and helter skeltered all over the shop, she declares she'll do anything he says and doesn't care if she sniffs gas and what she told Marvin Part is never made public {until 2015}. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anythingAtkins was never pushed on it. It's not a fair or valuable trait to have.we are trained to disregard the Parry Mason notion of courtrooms: someone actually out and out lying on the witness standThat makes good sense and allows for nuances. I just personally have a real bad reaction to what I call "Absolutist Proclamations".i.e. They only want one thing. Manson Blog Locates and Interviews Son of Clyda Dulaney! And Ruthann ended up turning out ok- even more of a reason phrases like "Dark to Light" apply- if you have to use them at all.I admit I am a little surprised people will defend Linda Kasabian so fiercely. I wonder if that cabinet they found Manson in was more importantyou know, you had to go through a wardrobe to get there. Reading through the court transcripts, what is often presented in HS as a dramatic moment is actually quite tame. Mrs. Kasabian said after she saw Frykowsky killed, she thought of Manson and her daughter, Tanya, now 2 1/2. It was not bizarre. What appeared peaceful at first to Linda Kasabian turned violent. In fact, his case is better against her then Van Houten at that pointAccording to his book, nothing said in the grand jury could be used against Atkins and nothing she said could be used against her co defendants. 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