He beat my mother. A review of Bakers book said Baker and Oswald were attempting to create a cocktail of toxins that would infect Castro with cancer while they worked at cover jobs at the Reily Coffee Company in New Orleans. His oldest daughter, June, I believe attended the Univ. of Texas and graduated first in her class or very high in her class. Shes made some TV app Judith Baker, author of "Me and Lee - How I came to know, love, and lose Lee Harvey Oswald," presents an article at a symposium on Sat. Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it -- unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. My father is Kenneth Porter, the man I grew up with, the man who was there for my mother and Rachel and me. The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia. I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth. Oswald is now well along in an eight weeks course at the English Language Institute and is living in one of the homes of the congregation. Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald is the second daughter of Porter and her first husband Lee Harvey Oswald. I've never seen her act like that, like she needed to become more of a crusader, and it's taking its toll. So she became sort of a tourist attraction.Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy.A: Mom kept us together. Lee Harvey Oswalds youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed President Kennedy, and was shot to death himself. The public was prohibited from Rose Hill Cemetery, and no friends or other relatives showed up. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. I know that in my life, Lee wasn't a good man. They said it would depreciate the value of their home. She however remarried two years after Oswalds murder. Later that year the family moved from Russia to the United States. She believes that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. A: It has put certain strain on it. Click "Submit" to let the Reveille's student journalists know. She was born after her family moved to Dallas from Russia. She looks just like her father, with her mother's eyes. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. Mom accused me one day of being ashamed of who I was. The only mention of We stayed with her for the summer. Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza? She managed to evade the media upon arriving (She slipped into our community at night by train while a battery of reporters were waiting hawkishly at the airport, Campbell said), but photographers were waiting when she stepped onto campus the morning of January 5 for ELI orientation. Q: Did you ever take the so-called assassination tour? Well, I was satisfied with my dad, so I've never felt this big need to connect with Lee or do the daughter-father thing. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally - like stating publicly that Lee did it. I think she is a phony in the whole deal. The other thing is, you just worry genealogically: Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. I'm sure he will respond. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. It also gives us information that helps explain Marina Oswalds comments about the assassination. Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past year, she reports being content. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. Mostly I feel bad that Lee was never able to tell his story. A: Something had come up where Mom had old boxes of letters out. WebIn the show Quantum Leap (1989), there was an episode titled "Lee Harvey Oswald,", which was a 2-hour episode, and showed main character Sam Beckett (Scott Bakula) leaping into Oswald's life at various points of significance between 1957 and 1963, beginning in 1963 in Oswald's yard, where Marina is taking the famous photograph of Now, the word father does mean Lee to me. Q: When were you actually told about your father and the assassination?A: Something had come up where Mom had old boxes of letters out. Before the year came to a close, the churchs leaders would invite Oswald to Ann Arbor and offer to host her while she studied at U-M. by certain people in the critical communiity, so no wonder they are a bit gunshy. There's always been this little group that's followed us -- Mom, Rachel and me -- and calls us and is fascinated by anything surrounding us. MORE THAN 30 YEARS AFTER the Kennedy assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald is a name that will not go away. Bentley Historical Library, Vice President for Development records. Great!" Destructive 'Super Pigs' From Canada Threaten the Northern U.S. Did an Ancient Magnetic Field Reversal Cause Chaos for Life on Earth 42,000 Years Ago? ", My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer. I can't imagine the burden they've carried over the years, but I hope they have found some peace in their lives. they went on with their lives as the girls hardly knew their father and are not bothered by others Still, the help for Oswald paled compared to the support for the widows and children of President Kennedy and Officer Tippit. Just get out. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. My secretary in my last job put two and two together based on one of those articles. She uses her stepfathers name, Porter, to avoid unwanted attention from being related to an infamous character. I couldnt remember anything after he was shot, Baker said. I try to hold that in the back of my head. I don't know if I could've done it and kept my sanity: two small children, don't speak the language, dirt poor, everybody in the country pointing their finger at you -hating you in some cases. I don't think it's relevant to anything we do here and I appreciate you keeping it to yourself." Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed - no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year.A: Yes, I'm also very excited about that. Marina Oswald with children June and Rachel. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed), Despite privacy concerns, she's pushing for the release of all records pertaining to the assassination. It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that -- even about yesterday. I know some who wouldnt hesitate to try to make a mental case out of me, she told interviewer Jean Stafford. Earlier in the week, Baker toured sites in New Orleans significant to her relationship with Oswald, such as the former offices of Reily Coffee Company and Oswald and Bakers rendezvous locations. Within weeks, donations topped $12,000 and by early 1964 would grow to $70,000 the equivalent of nearly $600,000 today. After her death from cancer on January 17, 1981, Marguerite Claverie Oswald was laid to rest in the Rose Hill Cemetery. Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? And then, they tell a story about how after that I stood up in front of the whole class and said, "My father shot the President." I don't blame him for not being here for me. Or are we going to provide help simply because here is a human being in trouble who desperately needs help?. So I said, O.K., this is it. The churchgoer turned to her minister at Ann Arbors First Presbyterian Church. Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. Before the casket was lowered, the lid was opened for the family to see Oswalds face one last time. Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. So he moved to Boston and wanted me to join him. The wall build around Oswald's family women was intense after Dallas. A week later, Campbell met with his congregation and explained the executive committees thinking. And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald spoke on her feeling. We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come, up a lot around the house except when reporters would call It was always a big deal in November, when it was very stressful in the house. Tags: Assassination, Conspiracy, JFK, Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, Marina Oswald, Television, L.D.C. Given everything above, you'd probably expect his return to be announced by dozens of men in dark glasses bundling him out the airport and into a mobile interrogation chamber. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. Mom would smoke all the time. Fitzgerald, JFK Novelist is proudly powered by, In thriller novel SAVING JACKIE K "Everything in my novel is true, except the stuff I made up. And I'm gonna be in Dallas, and I want to sing it to you. Although Baker was not in Dealey Plaza when Kennedy was shot, she said she spoke with Oswald 37 hours before. Without any sources, national news outlets began reporting that two women students allegedly attacked Oswald in a campus building. Oswalds wife Marina, two daughters, brother Robert and mother Marguerite were the only mourners. She kept herself together for us. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. Marina kept to her wordafter the days surrounding the assassination, neither June nor Rachel was ever allowed to see their grandmother again. Dr. Ernest T. Campbell, welcomed the idea as the one thing we might do to partially redeem the tragedy.. I do remember that our phones were tapped. She got all caught up, because she wants so badly to have this identification with her father. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. WebLee Harvey Oswalds youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed President Kennedy, and was shot to death himself. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don't agree about what happened.Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role?A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. Two days later, as authorities transferred him to a different jail, Oswald was gunned down by Jack Ruby, a Dallas nightclub owner. After her husbands death, she said she wanted to stay in the United States and improve her English. From The New York Times Magazine April 30, 1995. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash," June says simply. Well, we're all waiting and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera and she says, "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. Ann Arbor police and campus officials vehemently denied the reports; Oswald herself told them she had not been assaulted in any way, physically or verbally. I read this intvu again and if there are two people I'd love to talk to, it's Rachel and June. A: Yes and no. Porter has said that she came to believe that her husband Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. A: I would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. Lee Harvey Oswald also was accused of killing Dallas police officer J.D. Just in recent years; but yes. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs - as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. If you are willing to consider me to become your companion, I shall give you my best to make you happy and pull you out of the morass of bitterness, came an offer from Bangalore. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the oddball clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women -- Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 -- ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. A few men sent letters to the ELI office in hopes of striking up a romantic relationship with Oswald. There were hysterics. Marina Oswald was left a widow with two young daughters after her husband was killed by Jack Ruby. Based on U-M and church records, this may well have been Maurine Hovey Nolan, an ELI lecturer and longtime member of the congregation. Reporters came over and she would tell us, "shhhh, go in the other room". Judyth Vary Baker, the lover of Lee Harvey Oswald, gave her perspective on the medias treatment of Oswald since his death to a group of professors and community members at Loyola University on Saturday in New Orleans. It was in Minsk that, in 1959, she met an American, Lee Harvey Oswald, who had defected to the USSR at the height of the Cold War, when tensions between the U.S. and the Soviets were running high. Porter is 81 years old. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. Raised by her stepfather, Rachel Oswald Porter didnt know who her birth father was as a young child. Im sure Mrs. Oswald could conquer English in any school in America. The first car was The National Enquirer. She had been in the United States all of 17 Those who insist that the church should not become embroiled are really pressing for an irrelevant church, he preached. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. For years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. But earlier th Where Does Marina Porter Live Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. We were studying the Presidents. On November 25, 1963, the nations gaze was transfixed by the horse-drawn caisson and final burial of President John F. Kennedy. I don't blame him for not being here for me. She is convinced that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. Marina was stunned by Marguerites aggressive publicity seeking and despised her incessant focus on money. He tracked me down. She was 23, neatly dressed in a skirt, sweater and winter coat, and looking like a graduate student with books tucked under her arm. Q: Do you worry about telling your children as they grow up? Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. In my book she belongs where her husband is. Twenty I know you were just a toddler, but do you have any recollections of turbulence in the household?A: I don't have any real memories of those ages. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/30/magazine/lee-harveys-oldest-june-oswald.html. There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it - unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. Oh great!". ", on Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence, Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence. It was her meetings with the Warren Commission, as well interviews with the FBI, that prevented Oswald from coming to Ann Arbor in 1964. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally -- like stating publicly that Lee did it. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. Send her back to Texas and if she felt any sorrow at all for the horrible thing her husband did to Jackie and all of the decent citizens of the United States, she would go back to Russia (where she belongs), said a writer from the Upper Peninsula. Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. But earlier this month, the Daily Mirror, the Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. I had a conversation like that with her in about 88. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. But she was not too happy that I had found her and at that moment in time was not interested in. We always used my stepfather's name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chilli Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. She no longer had reason to doubt her grandiose visions, her place in history. Where is your respect for President Kennedy?. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. And then she was gone. Oswald. I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there's the issue of what role he had in our family. I'm convinced that your mother and Priscilla had a sexual relationship." I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids.Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment.A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. A: The first time l saw it l was very upset, but it gets to the point where it almost becomes unreal, this movie you're watching that has very little to do with you as a person. By Oswalds wife Marina, two daughters, brother Robert and mother Marguerite were the only mourners. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. A: The "second spirter," right. Mom would smoke all the time. What do I tell them? But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for - I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! Together, they had a son Mark Porter. She kept herself together for us.Q: Was any of this an issue in your marriage?A: No. Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. Just get out. So I said, O.K, this is it. Social justice drove Campbell, and he urged worshippers to engage with the world to right its wrongs. One woman said that she had belonged to a church for forty years and what it had done for her in all that time she could write on the back of a postage stamp, Campbell said. She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. WebHome in her husband's native Texas, life became difficult again for Marina Oswald. By the end of the year, however, she was ready to travel from Texas to become a student. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance. Why are 40+ guests suddenly reading this very old thread, as well as a smaller but still significant number reading an old thread on Marina? They had no idea their church had offered to host her, to the point of leaders offering to pay for her transportation, housing and coursework out of their own pockets. He said he was frankly surprised at her command of English. It might not have told us very much about the assassination of JFK but it provides an excellent insight into what it must be like to be the child of a much hated historical figure. In her early years, grocery My first serious boyfriend -- that's what he was fascinated about. Well, I was satisfied with my dad, so I've never felt this big need to connect with Lee or do the daughter-father thing.Q: One can't help but notice that you address him as "Lee. But I don't remember that. Whom do you really think of as dad?A: Kenneth. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. Thanks for the video; I'd never seen it before. See, this is the difference. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying. The It was one of many strange, discordant reactions that led many to question her sanity in the days and years aheadand to find the likely source of many of her sons problems. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. The strongest reaction to Oswalds enrollment came from the people who were sponsoring her visit: the 2,300-member congregation of First Presbyterian Church. A: Mom kept us together. Another car pulls up - and that's the parents and the little boy. She wished to face reality, not dodge it, the church reported in its newsletter. I would have liked for him to have his day in court.Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza?A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. I think her physical health and mental health have been damaged in recent years over all of the pressures put on her.Q: After all this time?A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. I do remember that our phones were tapped. But she did. He encouraged First Presbyterian members to maintain a vital balance between personal religion and constructive involvement in the ongoing life of the world.. ___________________________________________, Reminds me of Elvis Costello's song "Watching The Detectives.". I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? I have to admit that when I heard that he used to play with me all the time, that was a nice feeling. A good person. He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then - I think it was $25,000. So l never connected it as a big negative or anything. She was never recognized. Some of you may not have read June (Oswald) Porter's 1995 interview and might find it of interest. The first car was The National Enquirer. Just out of the blue. By the early 60s it was enrolling hundreds of students a year for intensive courses in vocabulary, composition, and grammar. Porter was born in the city of Molotovsk, in Arkhangelsk Oblast, in the northwest of the USSR. Lee Harvey Oswald in custody on Nov. 22, 1963. Like she did a movie and it involved me and Rachel, and she didn't tell us first. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. He beat my mother. The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. Porter met Lee Harvey Oswald at a dance in March 1961 in Russia. Porter married Oswald during his temporary defection to the Soviet Union and emigrated to the United States with him. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. Im just like everybody else, and Ive had more than enough.. 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