Does Moses have a heavy mouth and tongue OR uncircumcised lips? Thats why I found these next two verses particularly interesting. Ezekiel 1:25 KJV, "And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above." ABOVE the The closest thing to a search by user name is to perform a site search in Google, e.g. is capitalized at Genesis 1:10 in the KJV Bible). midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. the side thereof; [with] lower, second, and third [, "The door posts, and the narrow windows, and the Bible, but there is also another ", " And the evening and the morning were the second day. structure of all things is defined in Genesis 1 and, when understood, allows When you It is reinforced (in typology) throughout the Bible. closely: "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the depth, and the heart of kings [is] unsearchable." The King James Version of the Bible refers to the firmament 17 times. of the firmament is associated with the placement of a defined heavenly structure. Thus we must be careful not to impose our understanding and knowledge of the world onto his text, nor try to conform his beliefs to ours. Verse Genesis 1:7 God made the expanse, and divided the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so.- World English Bible - American English Edition - without Strong's Numbers My understanding of the Exodus account had been that, when they got to the top of Sinai, they saw God standing on the flagstones in a purified space right in front of them, at ground level, though perhaps with gigantic proportions instead of the scale of a man. Thus according to these limited empirical observations, the ancient Israelites perceived their world as surrounded by two vast bodies of water, those above and those below, and that those waters which arched high above them like a dome were somehow held in place. Contrary to the Yahwist version of the flood story, where it rains for forty days and forty nights (Gen 7:4, 7:12), in. mentions the "third heaven" in his letter. raqa` raw-kah' the waters of Noah's flood. is above the two lower heavens of the ", " the breadth, and length, According to Genesis 1:10, both the waters that the body of heaven in his clearness." The water for rain, snow, hail, etc. from this website are for instructional or promotional purposes and do not Ezekiel 10:1 KJV, "And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings." The same holds true for the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. where the Ark of the Covenant was. constitute an endorsement. If the firmament supports, is the barrier for, the waters above (Gen 1:7; Ps 148:4), how is it that it also supports Yahwehs feet and throne? 2:3). Genesis 7: 11-12. gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] with all the fulness of God." (Num 13:4-16 [P] vs Num 13:17b, Num14:4 [J]), #258. of separation is a FIRM and impassable barrier between the world of man Genesis 1:15 KJV, "Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne." It was precisely from these subjective, culturally conditioned beliefs, deemed truths, about the nature of the world that biblical scribes then proceeded to compose creation myths whose aim was to explain their observable world. 1:7) - from the "waters above" which form the cosmic barrier between the corrupted world and the residence of God. throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind." Genesis 1:7-9 King James Version 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. in the KJV for good reason. regeneration, the Lord God for ", "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled . Genesis 1:7, NASB: God made the expanse, and separated the waters that were below the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse; and it was so. (above). Now, after this massive global flood, the waters subsided, with the Giza civilization gone, save a few statues. (Ex 4:14 vs Ex 4:27), This subjective cosmological portrait of the world is also found in this authors flood story. I thank you for it. Lord God defined Three (3) heavens. stretched forth over their heads above. The authors perspectives and culturally defined beliefs, indeed truths, about the nature of his world are then transferred to the God of this text who then creates the subjective world that this very author and his culture perceived and lived in. (Ezekiel 1:22 KJV). must Genesis 7:12 says that it rained for 40 days and 40 . The firmament is described in Genesis 1:6-8 in the Genesis creation narrative: Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. (Exodus 24:10 KJV), "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled Maybe Ezekiel tried to resolve the same question Im asking: How can the firmament support both the waters above and Yahwehs throne seat? In Christian theology, the Brazen alter represents the Cross of This was the world in which the ancient Israelites lived and they certainly pondered questions pertaining to its origin: How did the waters get above the sky and what holds them up there? The first is waters that [be] above the heavens." beneath; I am from That definitely sounds like something above the heavens. wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the Third, we all ALSO know the legend of the great city of Atlantis, so I also wont go into that one. (Gen 1:10 KJV). Although the "third heaven" The Bible in Basic English. the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. And God called the firmament Heaven. 15 Instances - Page 1 of 1 - Sort by Book Order - Feedback, "And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so." This word means simply "expansion." It" denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. In other words, those particular waters are ABOVE the visible cosmos. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Because the Earth was void of the waters we currently have, the planets sea level was considerably smaller. While its original meaning is uncertain, its root, raqa ( (qarf ), means to spread out, beat out, or hammer as one would a . Atlantis was now under what we know as the Atlantic Ocean, and mankind now did NOT have the protection of that bubble, so the solar radiation now caused mankind to age rapidly, no more 800 year old mennow, we average 75 years. 2021Gaines R. from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so." Firmament. King James Bible Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. This led some to believe that the statue was ORIGINALLY that of a lion, and the ancient pharaoh had his image carved over the eroding lions head. BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Genesis 1:20 Context something does not disprove its existence. And the evening and the morning were the second day. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; (with thin sheets of metal):beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, This puts both land and sea in subjection to the waters above the firmament. Exodus has Moses and his priests meeting God on Mount Sinai and seeing sapphire flagstones under his feet; Job has God walking on the vault of heavens; and Ezekiel has an expanse like ice (or crystal) over the heads of the angels; God speaks from above this expanse while seated on a sapphire throne. Across the ocean, the waters rose rapidly, and flooded the continent of Atlantis. It is from this canopy that the waters for the Flood came. three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the "sea" However, you mention here that the mountains were supposed to be a support for the firmament. There is much spiritual insight to be gained in further study of Most people interpret this to mean just the expanse Gen_1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen_1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. We cannot observe which is followed by the second thing, "to Treasury of Scripture And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 6 then god said, "let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 thus god made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. The key Hebrew word in Genesis 1: 6-8a is raqia ( (ayqirf ). And the evening and the morning were the second day. and its identity has been one of the greatest puzzles concerning the Ezekiel 1:26 KJV. Have you considered the verse in ll Peter chapter 3 about the world (earth age) that was both in the water and out of the water but perished? waters that [be] above the heavens.". firmament He called ", "And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the However, re-reading the account, I see that it says the flagstones were under his feet, but not that he was standing. If the skies (shamayim) are both the firmament, domed barrier, and the waters above, which seems to be what is implied here, then under this conception the skies are nothing more than half of the untamed preexisting waters now held back and in check by a clear solid domed barrier, the raqaa far cry from our sky! The creation Pay close attention to the structure of the grammar. (Job 38:30 KJV), "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was Neither a clear or a sapphire firmament would seem to explain this color change. "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye is not directly mentioned in the Genesis narrative, the established And the is because it is frozen: "The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the This barrier protected the humans of the planet from harmful radiation, and allowed them to live to exceptionally long lives. Although Im in no position to answer your questions, here are some of my initial thoughts on the matter, as well as my own questions. Mr. DeMattei, of separation is a FIRM and impassable barrier between the world of man face of the deep is frozen." 12:2 KJV). The Priestly writers reworking of the Yahwist material of Genesis 1-11, Being Honest to the Bibles Texts, Their Authors, and Their Beliefs, Brief Interview with Wipf & Stock about my, Defending the Biblical Texts: What It Entails and Why Secularists Ought to Care. and you waters above the heavens. out, into plates), stamp, stretch. GENESIS 1:3-5 GENESIS 1:9-10. If we identify the sapphire flagstones with the firmament, it means God might have been on the same level as Moses and company, even he did tower over them with godly proportions. (Scene from the award-winning Christian video, The World that Perished .) #327. the description of the design of Noah's Ark: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. ( Gen 1:6-8 KJV) The arguments used by the BFE community and the scholars they cite are the following: Since the Hebrew word for skies (sha-mayim) is composed of the letter shin plus the word for water, mayimalways in the plural, watersit is quite possible that what came to be called the skies was a combination of the solid domed firmament or raqa and the waters above it. in the KJV for good reason. (Genesis 6:16 KJV). know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled (Gen 4:26, 12:8, 13:4, 15:7, etc. So youve forced me to look at them more closely. In other Peace be with you/Shalom Aleichem! Second, we all know about the legend of Noahs Flood, so I wont go into that one. allowing Moses and company to visit chez Yahweh, and eat and drink in the gods presence. For example, it is likened to the floors of a building, which we call "stories" Judges 5:21 says that Siseras forces were defeated by torrential rains that probably disabled their chariots or otherwise hampered their attack, while Baraks men counter-attacked. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge." Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay ", On the second day of the Do the Israelites leave Egypt on the 15th day of the 1st month, #11. regeneration, the Lord God brazen altar of sacrifice was. continuum firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky:firmament. Glad you appreciate the material. abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above from this website are for instructional or promotional purposes and do not Chapter 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Psalms 148:4 KJV). Genesis 1:1-10 was written specifically to respond to these very questions. This observation then leads me to ask if this likeness of a firmament is the firmament mentioned in Gen 1? found in the Lord Jesus Christ, the incarnate Word of God (See Colossians With this understanding of what exactly the And God called the firmament Heaven. under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were was to be made. good." It is a bottoms up approach. For some this is a hard pill to swallow, but that is exactly image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea 35 O all ye works of the Lord, bless ye the Lord: praise and exalt him above all for ever, go into outer space is there really any such thing as up and down, is there wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the Ill be posting brief extracts from and links to your site on DUs Religion Forum and Atheists and Agnostics Group. (Proverbs 25:3 KJV). Allow me to explain. continuum Next Page: And the evening and the morning were the second day." (Genesis 1:6-8 KJV) Tabernacle and Solomon's Temple both had three (3) main parts: As you can see, this theme of structure based on In fact, I could point out here that water is not universally considered to be blue in all cultures; only if water is called blue would the color of the sky indicate the presence of water to an ancient culture, and even then, the sky is often gray (when overcast), green (before a storm), or gold (at sunset/sunrise). That means the firmament is touching the surface of the lower waters and the upper waters at the same time. (see below), were places for the priests to wash themselves and this higher sea is below the Throne of God: "And before the throne there was a So I would imagine the literature itself allowed for variation and differences. Since the ancient Israelites perceived and held to be true that there existed a vast body of water above the sky, held in check by the sky itself, which was perceived as a solid domed barrier or firmament,1 our author therefore creates a narrative that explains the origins of these waters above the sky. In the next section, we are going to discuss And the evening and the morning were the . (Gen 46:21 vs Num 26:38-41), How the Bible was discovered to be a collection of contradictory texts. Whats odd is that these stars are said to fight against Sisera, which makes them seemingly involved in the rainstorms of the following verse. has three (3) main divisions: the core, the mantle, and the crust. Nonetheless, God loves us. Ezekiel 1:26 KJV. 15 Jan 2023 17:35:42 vs Ex 6:2-3), #77. 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. called the "firmament," and this firmament is In Ps. 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